We should always be circumspect when we accuse people of dastardly crimes, knowing how little we can know, sitting out here in cyberspace and local towns.
Twitter and Facebook are full of false accusations, conspiracy theories and just because we see a Hollywood movie about the CIA torture conspiracy doesn't mean it happened just the movie says it did.
But when you know there is a 500 page report detailing the misdeeds, when you can read the parts of the report in the Congressional Record and now, on line, and most especially, when you can see the two accused "psychologists" on the internet defending themselves as "soldiers doing what we were told to do" echoing the Nuremberg Nazis's defense: "I was just following orders," you may be forgiven for believing what you can so readily believe, given the clips of Dick Cheney saying we have to be ready to resort to torture to save American cities from dirty bombs.
If these two "clinical psychologists," Jessen and Mitchell, are even half as bad as they look in "The Report," they belong in some maximum security prison splitting rocks for the next 30 years. And, reading more about this mess, Jose Rodriguez, the CIA director of torture should be right there with them.
Once you listen to Dick Cheney, you have a very clear picture of his mindset and the thinking of all those who sailed with him. And this pair looks like more than willing accomplices.
Here they are in video from the NYT on line report:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/us/cia-torture-lawsuit-settlement.html
Mad Dog knows he may be accused of being no better than that guy who drove in from Virginia to the Pizza pallor in Washington, DC because he read on line about Hillary Clinton running a pedophile ring out of that joint.
But the fact is, Cheney was excusing torture in public, on TV; Clinton was not extolling pedophilia.
And we can listen to these creeps excuse their behavior as if they are well meaning guys, who just provided others with training to waterboard,to bury people alive in coffins, hang them by their thumbs.
Just your average, good ol' clinical psychologists, being as helpful as they can be.
Just trying to prevent a real life episode from "24."
Jessen says he was told if he didn't torture the prisoners, a nuclear bomb was going to go off in the United States soon, although somehow, CIA officers, who were told the same thing, didn't believe it, and were resigning in numbers over the torture.
And that phrase: "Enhanced Interrogation."
Oh, there is an admission of guilt, plain and simple.
Whenever you see our government involved in something really nasty, you know how nasty when they come up with some benign sounding euphemism: Hanging someone up by their thumbs, drowning them on a water board, sealing them up inside a coffin suffused with cockroaches, is not "torture," but "enhanced interrogation." There you have the guilty conscience visible in the effort to call a viper a potentially toxic legless reptile.
The beasts who sold their "expertise" to the CIA, and who were rewarded generously for their depravity, can be seen even today, on the internet excusing their torture techniques with the same argument the Nazi Goering used: History is written by the winners; if we win we are hailed as heroes; if we lose we are war criminals.
In this case "we" i.e., the torturers, did not win or lose. But they are still at large.
But there is another history, and that is the Report Daniel Jones wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:US_Senate_Report_on_CIA_Detention_Interrogation_Program.pdf&page=4
These CIA creeps were simply criminals who tortured people.
They join their overseers at the CIA and in the Bush White House, and are still at large.
The problem is, you cannot whisk them awake to Jerusalem or Nuremberg for trial. We'd have to do it here.
And right now we've got a guy in the White House who would greet them there with a pardon and a clothes line franchise.
Twitter and Facebook are full of false accusations, conspiracy theories and just because we see a Hollywood movie about the CIA torture conspiracy doesn't mean it happened just the movie says it did.
But when you know there is a 500 page report detailing the misdeeds, when you can read the parts of the report in the Congressional Record and now, on line, and most especially, when you can see the two accused "psychologists" on the internet defending themselves as "soldiers doing what we were told to do" echoing the Nuremberg Nazis's defense: "I was just following orders," you may be forgiven for believing what you can so readily believe, given the clips of Dick Cheney saying we have to be ready to resort to torture to save American cities from dirty bombs.
If these two "clinical psychologists," Jessen and Mitchell, are even half as bad as they look in "The Report," they belong in some maximum security prison splitting rocks for the next 30 years. And, reading more about this mess, Jose Rodriguez, the CIA director of torture should be right there with them.
Once you listen to Dick Cheney, you have a very clear picture of his mindset and the thinking of all those who sailed with him. And this pair looks like more than willing accomplices.
Here they are in video from the NYT on line report:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/us/cia-torture-lawsuit-settlement.html
Mad Dog knows he may be accused of being no better than that guy who drove in from Virginia to the Pizza pallor in Washington, DC because he read on line about Hillary Clinton running a pedophile ring out of that joint.
But the fact is, Cheney was excusing torture in public, on TV; Clinton was not extolling pedophilia.
And we can listen to these creeps excuse their behavior as if they are well meaning guys, who just provided others with training to waterboard,to bury people alive in coffins, hang them by their thumbs.
Just your average, good ol' clinical psychologists, being as helpful as they can be.
Just trying to prevent a real life episode from "24."
Jessen says he was told if he didn't torture the prisoners, a nuclear bomb was going to go off in the United States soon, although somehow, CIA officers, who were told the same thing, didn't believe it, and were resigning in numbers over the torture.
And that phrase: "Enhanced Interrogation."
Oh, there is an admission of guilt, plain and simple.
Whenever you see our government involved in something really nasty, you know how nasty when they come up with some benign sounding euphemism: Hanging someone up by their thumbs, drowning them on a water board, sealing them up inside a coffin suffused with cockroaches, is not "torture," but "enhanced interrogation." There you have the guilty conscience visible in the effort to call a viper a potentially toxic legless reptile.
The beasts who sold their "expertise" to the CIA, and who were rewarded generously for their depravity, can be seen even today, on the internet excusing their torture techniques with the same argument the Nazi Goering used: History is written by the winners; if we win we are hailed as heroes; if we lose we are war criminals.
In this case "we" i.e., the torturers, did not win or lose. But they are still at large.
But there is another history, and that is the Report Daniel Jones wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:US_Senate_Report_on_CIA_Detention_Interrogation_Program.pdf&page=4
These CIA creeps were simply criminals who tortured people.
They join their overseers at the CIA and in the Bush White House, and are still at large.
The problem is, you cannot whisk them awake to Jerusalem or Nuremberg for trial. We'd have to do it here.
And right now we've got a guy in the White House who would greet them there with a pardon and a clothes line franchise.
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